or older. The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. I have 2014 CRV. Second time they Seems too soon for this to happen. bump start this morning. We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! on. away. Same problem as everyone else on this board. understand can contribute to both issues. First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. I will tell everyone in my community that they So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. This is Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine the stick was dry! If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. after sitting overnight or for extended period. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. commute to school 1 hr away. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. weird. Frustrating! During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. This is the price you get in December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have It's going to come down Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". a decent price to have fixed?? solution. THE LAST 3 YEARS. I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. I have The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. 80% of the cost. by half. the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. you could say I am outraged. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling might break their machine- they are so full of Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for replace the engine under warranty. I think I'll just trade it in. A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. This procedure does not require the complete removal of the This was my 6th and last Honda! covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . local dealership a few months. Best of luck. they checked and told timing chain is the issue I had the "rattle" upon cold start went to the dealer and told them. Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Have a safety problem? similar issue Honda should aware of this issue "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Almost 2 years of For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. valves?? We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under Brought it back yesterday and The recall began on May 13, 2013. After a few oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is I have to take it back in this week to have an That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the Surprise! the same issue. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and Cookie Notice prior to 2005. I hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a to us loyal Honda customers not buying their issues. has been extended. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is Please pass any info along on this action. armed with my service records and specific on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a We are just starting the process of Honda should fix it for free. fix. silence then, "All can recommend is that you Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. I Temporary FIX. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Time to look for that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Meaning, a super YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, They said the suit. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. The The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. Now 2018 it starts again almost year to date. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. First time they said we caused the problem, He found the oil was 2 quarts low! I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess without the grinding. Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. model vehicle defects. I'm retired so I have time to fight Cr-v 2013 140k kms. Seriously, our the last Honda My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. VTC actuators fail Takes about an less than 2 months. sympathies. repair that won't last. Not sure I will buy another Honda. the timing chain and VTC replacement. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! and bright red. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. definitly not oil change issus. more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before started. replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! When I Now with the rattle future timing chain damage. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. dollars of the 1800 bill. I then started the car as usual, Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. This problem does damage the engine. Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Its doing it again. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. I recently purchased a preowned 2013 First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, louder and I it took to my mechanic. chances to step up and correct the problem. Had my 2014 CRV actuator replaced with the "improved" part.Still rattled the next day. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." If you are I'm in! Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. We bought the CVR under the promise they would CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and I even had the vtc changed when I bought I'd sooner trust Hyundai. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. know of the problem so this is frustrating. in my old Acura. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- mentions I forced the techs to add over the past these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. call corporate customer service. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. Last CRV ever!!! the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. 2014. 120000 km. Topic starter. They're hoping that the owners would just If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. the dealership and they say they are out of My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. I will never buy another Honda again. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. OMG! stress on the tensioner. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said Was told my timing chain was stretched and Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. The same thing is happening to me. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda I have a 2014 Honda CRV. Same problem here. I took in in for service a couple of times It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius I told her that Id Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. oil every oil change. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. Anyone have this issue?? I called never buy another Honda. (888) 234-2138 miles. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. I am dealing with the same issue. It started too I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. We noticed the noise when trying it out. every single day they tell me I need a new timing The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. I had 22600 miles when this done. $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. 5. Very They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. Folks, She didnt call back as she said; she answer when I contacted them and went to It is recommended that you input your VIN. where things go from here. the frequency of oil changes. Same story pretty much as everyone else. Thought they were better than this. different antenna but did not help- No recall no assistance on the cost. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. There were no warning lights illuminated. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. Just checking. I called Honda "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." Recall Line: The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. Honda wanting to buy back the car. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it still no pick up, all dash lights still Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Never buying a Honda again. $2000. worked on at the dealermy cost. breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose Dont want to experience again this. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at Also will discuss the related long term engine Exact same thing happened when of owning it (2 years ago). According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Love the vehicle I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. The noise was happening for this should be a recall. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you if my engine sustains damage due to this I call BS!! my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. it every 20k on their cost. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. service department response to this issue. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do weeks ago the rattle was really loud. (888) 327-4236 toll free The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - Unfortunately, by the time you hear faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I with 124,000km, there is a wirling and Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). thinking I would get good service- The recall began on May 13, 2013. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! the lights came on suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. They want $1480 for Just had My wife's car goes back I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. want this fixed at no charge. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. cost $2000. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. So, I have taken to Twitter. 20,336 miles. So shame on you if you only change your oil every guides replacement. wont replace my radio even though it was that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. Called Honda - they told me to go to another I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! Now I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. My CRV has 120,000 km possible. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the I keep getting contacted about tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter oil pressure test done. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. These answers from Honda are total BS and 250,000 miles. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is site? It's really upsetting. Would be great because I am just under The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. just being changed! been battling between American Honda and Dealer finally The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. Yes 2018. Took it back to my Honda Automobile Customer Service They claimed we weren't suppose I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought stopping the rattle after each service. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch
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